MINUTES

LITCHFIELD SCHOOL BUILDING COMMITTEE

LITCHFIELD INTERMEDIATE SCHOOL LIBRARY

February 3, 2005

 

A meeting of the Litchfield School Building Committee was held on Thursday, February 3, 2005, at 7:00 p.m. in the Litchfield Intermediate School Library.

 

Present were: Jack Healy, Chairman, Jeff Zullo, Gary Waugh; Bill Buckley, Mac Bramley, Lynn Chapman, Chris Canfield, Kent Gilyard and Robert Blazek.

 

Also Present:  Superintendent Jay Chittum; Peg Perusse, School Business Manager; BOE  Members Diane Knox and Wayne Shuhi; BOS Members Leo Paul and Bill Dranginis; Town Finance Director Cynthia Politano; Tim Callahan of Herbert S, Newman Partners; Greg Oneglia of O & G; Ed Fabbri; Joanne Moore; Public and the Press.

 

Meeting was called to order at 7:08 P.M. by Jack Healy.

 

Approval of Minutes

Motion was made by Bill Buckley to accept the minutes of the January 20, 2005 meeting, seconded by Jeff Zullo.

Motion Carried.  All votes were in the affirmative except for Lynn Chapman, Mac Bramley, and Jack Healy, who abstained

 

Motion was made by Jeff Zullo to accept the minutes of the January 11, 2005 special meeting, seconded by Gary Waugh.

Motion Carried.  All votes were in the affirmative except for Lynn Chapman, who abstained

 

Motion was made by Mac Bramley to accept the minutes of the December 16, 2004 meeting, seconded by Gary Waugh.

Motion Carried.  All votes were in the affirmative except for Lynn Chapman, who abstained

 

Public Participation - None

 

Communication

Bob Blazek reported that the BOS had two questions:

  1. March 16, 2005 meeting with PCT – Will we have representation at the meeting.

Peg Perusse – Generally the Superintendent, Business Manager, Jack Healy, First Selectman, a BOE representative, the Architect and Engineer will be in attendance.

Bob Blazek – Can you participate?

Tim Callahan – We walk in with the documents, go through the checklist, the State then reviews the documents, goes over issues and issues a summary.  They then give the documents back and ask for any issues to be fixed and brought back in approximately two weeks.

Bob Blazek – Is it normal operating when you bring in your plan that the project is accepted, or are there always corrections?

Tim Callahan – We would love to have it sail right through, but there are always issues.

Bill Buckley – It’s important that the Architect and Superintendent speak; no one else should say anything unless directly asked.

Tim Callahan – We should strategize how many people we have there.  They don’t want a lot of people attending.

Jay Chittum – In my experience they usually dismiss the Superintendent.  I haven’t had to stay the entire day.

Leo Paul – Should I attend?

Tim Callahan – We should ask the reviewers who they want there.

Jeff Zullo – It may be worth having Leo Paul and the Superintendent there and someone from this Building Committee.   It shows a strong commitment to this project.

Leo Paul – I am certainly happy to attend.

Jack Healy – When do we send the documents to them?

Tim Callahan – We have had informal reviews with them already. They are aware of what we are doing and our strategies for codes.

Gary Waugh – Is it typical that they would have questions of the Superintendent regarding the schedule and moving students?

Jay Chittum – I don’t recall those types of questions.  The questions were focused on code.

Tim Callahan – There is a section on the checklist that would pertain to what the Superintendent’s office is doing.

 

  1. Kevin Creed asked, once we arrive at a final plan, will it be presented to the public?

Jeff Zullo – The plan is final. You can’t change it at this point.

Bill Buckley – Any Selectman can come to this meeting and give input.  There will not be any presentations or changes.

Bill Dranginis – Kevin Creed was looking for a brief overview.

Jeff Zullo – Detailed Design is complete.  There could be changes based on bids but the design is done.

Leo Paul – Before the plan is presented to the State, will it be presented to the Building Committee.

Jack Healy – Over the past several meetings we made a bunch of changes.  Tim have never come back and made one final presentation.  Can you come to the first meeting in March and give a presentation.  No changes.

Bill Buckley – I suggest we do that at the March 3RD meeting.  We’ll still be working on Plans and Specifications.  We should invite the BOS in writing.

Leo Paul – That will answer Kevin’s question.

Bill Dranginis – He asked that Public Participation be after the presentation.

Mac Bramley – Opening up to Public Participation would be meaningless.  There are no changes.

Jeff Zullo – As part of the presentation we also should have O & G present an estimate review.

Bill Buckley – There plans are being presented so that everyone is on the same page.  We’re not changing, but they can certainly show up at the next meeting and comment on the presentation.

Mac Bramley [to Greg Oneglia] – At the time the figures will be presented will you give us an idea of a reimbursement estimate?

Greg Oneglia – We will if we can.

 

Jeff Zullo reported from the BOF:

The Town successfully marketed $9.35M of which $8.8M had been bonded for the project at 2.4%.  Money will be available to the project.

Mac Bramley – Since the money is not being used right away; the interim interest earned, does that accrue to the Town of Building Committee.

Leo Paul – I believe so.

Mac Bramley – There is a chance that it can be invested.   Will the money earned go back to this project?

 

Jeff Zullo – The BOF is to initiate the debt service of this project in next year’s budget.  It is a forward thinking step by the BOF and it may reduce the amount of the short term interest expense.

 

Jeff Zullo – I received an email from Wayne Shuhi about a seminar by Microsoft in Waltham, Massachusetts on February 25TH about Building Project Technology Updates.  Someone from the Technology Task Force Should attend.

Wayne Shuhi – I went to one eight to ten months ago and I thought it was fantastic.

Jeff Zullo – [to Superintendent Jay Chittum] – Do you want to see if anyone wants to attend this seminar?

Jack Healy – If any BC Member would like to attend, get a hold of Jay.

 

Jack Healy – I have been circulating emails through Kelli [Green).

 

Jack Healy – I met with David Wedge and discussed ramifications of having the school project delayed.  The reimbursement rate is 40-41% this year.  Nest year is will be 37%.  If this project was changed dramatically, we would have to start again, we would lose our place in line with the State and we would be subject to a lower reimbursement rate.

Jeff Zullo – I really appreciate the leadership of the first Selectman and the majority of the BOS to stay the course and make sure the Town receives the best value.

 Jack Healy - We also spoke about the approval process.

Jay Chittum – David Wedge estimates that plans received in March, the process is 60 – 65 days out.

Jack Healy – He said we may want to consider a local review.

Jay Chittum – There were also a couple of things we had to adjust to the State’s regulations.

Gary Waugh – If a local reviewer does the review, do we have to wait for the State approval or can we proceed right away?

Jack Healy – The review is sent to the State and they okay it immediately.

Jay Chittum – David Wedge said when the plans submitted, they will tell you how long it will take.  If we use a local review, the State will wait for the local to be completed and then they will approve it.

Jack Healy [to Bill Buckley] – You have experience with this, do you use local reviewers?

Bill Buckley – It’s fifty-fifty, but we use our own people for a local review.

Tim Callahan – We have done it in our office, but I personally have not experienced it.   We would use a person who has life safety and building code, the same people we have used in the past.   However, we would prefer to stay with the State,

Kent Gilyard – It sounds like there can be a problem with using a local reviewer.

Jack Healy – We have an opportunity now to do some homework about local reviews.  I did not get a sense from David Wedge that a local review was a problem, but also 60 – 65 days for review, we would be better off staying with the State.

Gary Waugh – What is the time frame once the State approves it and we go to bid?

Tim Callahan – Our documents are ready about two weeks after approval and set to O & G.

Greg Oneglia – Within a week after we receive the drawings, we’ll go to bid.  And then that takes a few weeks.

Bill Buckley – I tend to agree with that. That is a pretty good schedule.

 

Finance Sub Committee Update -

Mac Bramley – We have three bills to consider totaling $153,562.32

Haley & Aldrich - $2,824.50 for completion of their contract.

Herbert S. Newman - $149,217.82 (4 invoices)

Peter C. Herbst - $1,520.00

The Finance Subcommittee requests the BC approve the payments totaling $153,562.32.

 

Motion was made by Bill Buckley to approve payments, seconded by Kent Gilyard.

Motion Carried.  All votes were in the affirmative.  There were no abstentions.

 

We passed a Motion to deny Plumb Hill Playing Fields (PHPF) the $75K we committed for the track fence and swap it for a new baseball diamond.   We would like to explore with the BOS if the $75K could be paid to the Town of Litchfield and the Town would reduce the cap of the project by $75K to $32,925,000.00

 

Bill Dranginis – We wanted all the fields to be equal.  We are planning all new fields except the baseball field.  We hoped the $75K could be used to improve the baseball field.  If O & G were going to use the area for staging and equipment, and in the process damage is done to that field, we thought the $75K can be used to redo the field.

Mac Bramley – I thought I just heard the $75K should be used to restore site work.  If we could get rid of the $75K add/alternate and put it in restorative site work, I would be for it.

Bill Buckley – The concept is nice but we don’t know if they’ll be using the field for staging or equipment.  The fact is the CM has stated that there is not enough money for site work now.  It would limit us.

Lynn Chapman – Do we have a cost estimate if repairing a field of that size?

Bob Blazek – How far does are responsibility go to repair the field?

Greg Oneglia – We haven’t gotten hat far with planning where the staging would go.

Bill Buckley – At some point there areas will be identified.  In concept if it works and we have an extra $75K, we can put it in the baseball field.  But it’s not enough money.  Who knows how much damage maybe done?

Jack Healy – The $75K is something we committed a long time ago.  To start moving it around, I get uncomfortable doing that.  The money was offered up for new fences.

 

Motion was made by Jeff Zullo that the Building Committee requests the Board of Selectmen to fund the fencing for the Playing Fields in the amount of $75K and utilize funds from this project and reduce the cap of this project to $32,925,000.00. [Motion was not seconded]

 

Gary Waugh – You’re right Jack; it gets messy if we start moving it around. Either keep the original proposal or if there are extra funds at the end, put it in to site work.

 

Motion was made by Bill Buckley that the Building Committee not allocate $75K to the Playing Fields Group for fences and take $75K and put it into a line items for site work with the understanding when bids come in and if there is extra funds, use it to improve the baseball field, seconded by Kent Gilyard.

 

Jeff Zullo – Supporting that motion is reneging on our commitment to the Playing Fields.

Bill Buckley – The recommendation of the Finance Subcommittee was to reject the Playing Field’s request.  This motion would eliminate the need to commit to the fence.

Mac Bramley – The fences are going to be needed prior to the start of this project.  We can not perform any work until the start of this project.

Bob Blazek – You’re saying if there is money; it is not a commitment.   I don’t think it is reneging, we committed to the fencing and it didn’t work out.

Lynn Chapman – If the $75K is not enough to repair the field, where are we going to get the money to complete the repairs?

Jeff Zullo – The Playing Fields Group is privately funded and the Building Committee committed $75K to their group.  To me Bill’s motion is a retraction or reneging of a commitment we made.

Gary Waugh – I think it is the most pragmatic way of dealing with it.  It is not reneging; it’s a good faith attempt in dealing with it.

Bill Buckley – I don’t think it’s a retraction.  I agree that it is a pragmatic solution to an existing problem.  We didn’t decide not to give this money, but to entertain their request.  The Finance Subcommittee is split in addressing it.

 

Mac Bramley moved to question, seconded by Bill Buckley.  Questioned moved.

Motion Carried.  All voted were in the affirmative except Jeff Zullo who voted in the negative.  There were no abstentions.

 

Motion was made by Jeff Zullo that the Chairman send a letter to the Plumb Hill Playing Fields Group stating we’ve retracted our commitment to fund the fencing, seconded by Bob Blazek.

 

Bill Buckley – That is not what we voted.  I have no problem send the PHPF a copy of the minutes.  We did not renege or rescind.

Gary Waugh – The motion was that the BC was attempting to comply with their request to repair the baseball field.

Kent Gilyard – The request was for the BC to try to bring the baseball field up to par instead of paying for the fence.  You are changing the heart and soul of the motion.

Jeff Zullo – All I’m saying is that we communicate that he BC is not funding the fencing.

Bill Buckley – I think a compromise that the Chairman notify the PHPF that we took their request under consideration and we will attempt to redo the baseball field and not fund the fence.  As we get into discussion with HSNP and O & G we can ask them to consider using the baseball fields as a staging area and the impact on the students.

Mac Bramley – One big point, the PHPF needs fences prior to July.  We can not fund fences prior to July.  If the PHPF are delayed past July, I think we should fund the fences and the motion be reconsidered.

Kent Gilyard – We are dealing with a moving target, we have to adjust as we are going.  We need a bit more elasticity in our decisions.

 

Motion Failed.  All votes were in the negative, except Jeff Zullo, who voted in the positive.  There were no abstentions.

 

Technology Update – None

 

Architect and Construction Manager Update -  

Tim Callahan – I brought a set of documents, which we will be reviewing on March 3RD. 

Bill Buckley – Can you leave a set with Peg Perusse so we can look at them?

Tim Callahan – I already did.

Mac Bramley – Why is the LIS addition rotated 6° to the west?

Tim Callahan – We reviewed with O & G.  There are trees along the back side of the area we want to keep and also a view and also the way the building is sited at that point.

Mac Bramley – Is there a higher cost?

Tim Callahan – I don’t know that.  If there is it is not significant.

Mac Bramley – Is the rood still center grade or hip from the Auditorium wall to slant.

Tim Callahan – They are sloped with drains in the center of the roof.  The drain is where it is located and it is perfectly appropriate.  We changed the design radically because of the slope toward the Auditorium.  Center drains are used throughout roofs, it is a common practice.

Bob Blazek – Do these drains tend to back up or ice up?

Tim Callahan – There are baskets.

Bob Blazek – But someone has to clean the baskets.  Who is in charge of that?

Peg Perusse – Public Works is now in charge.

 

Jeff Zullo – I would like to hear more about the schedule.  I don’t think we are anywhere in June, more like August.  That is two months behind schedule.

Gary Waugh – I agree, but I don’t think there are options.

Jeff Zullo – We need to update the schedule.  It throws concrete off and steel off and pushes us into winter, which adds cost.

Jack Healy – The BC pushed back the PCT from January to March.

Bill Buckley – We really don’t know if bidding two months later than anticipated is really going to be more expensive.  There is a new system in the State and contractors have to be pre-qualified.  There are a limited number of contractors right now who a pre-qualified.  There will be more when we go out to bid.  Can Tim and Greg comment on the new system?

Gary Oneglia – Bill is exactly right.  All bidders have to be pre-qualified.  The bids on schools we are working on in Bridgeport; four of the low bidders did not include their pre-qualification paperwork and we had to reject their bids.  We are going to re-bid the package.  By the time we go out to bid, everyone will be pre-qualified.

 

Tim Callahan – I want to mention that we did receive approval from the Zoning Board of Appeals.   Inland/Wetlands and Planning and Zoning will be in March.  We heard from the DEP and are updating drawings.  Everything seems to be on schedule for applications.

Bill Buckley – Are there conditions in the ZBA approvals that require waivers they’ve granted to be filed on the land records?

Tim Callahan – The Attorney will read the ZBA approval.

Jack Healy – Hopefully we get quick action from the local boards.

 

Playing Fields Update

Jeff Zullo – There is a show of cause hearing next Wednesday, the 9TH.  Action could lead to cease and desist.  The DEP official came and did a site walk and noted changes and requested some other changes.  They could pull the permit and stop the project.

Bill Buckley – If we get beyond this, is the construction crew ready to move forward?

Jeff Zullo – Yes, the contractor has made a commitment at a considerable cost to fully sod the complete site this spring and pave and install the track.

 

Motion was made by Mac Bramley to adjourn at 9:00PM, seconded by Bill Buckley.

Motion Carried.  All votes were in the affirmative.  There were no abstentions.

 

Respectfully submitted,

 

 

Kelli L. Green, Recorder