MINUTES
LITCHFIELD
SCHOOL BUILDING COMMITTEE
LITCHFIELD INTERMEDIATE MUSIC ROOM
MAY 20, 2004
A meeting of the Litchfield School
Building Committee was held on Thursday, May 20, 2004, at 7:00 p.m. in the
Litchfield Intermediate Music Room.
Present were: Mac Bramley, Acting
Chairman, William Buckley; Robert Blazek; John Mullen; Kent Gilyard; Jeff
Zullo; Gary Waugh, Stacey Kavle.
Also Present:; John Tindall-Gibson;
Peg Perusse; BOE Members, Frank Simone
and Wayne Shuhi and Diane Knox;
Richard Munday, Tim Callahan, Ryan Minney of Herbert S. Newman and Partners;
Bruce Walpole and Greg Oneglia of O&G Industries; P & Z Members Victoria Claman and
Catherine Davis; Ed Fabbri; Public and the Press.
Meeting was called to order at 7:13
PM by M. Bramley
Motion was made by J. Zullo to move
Communication from 4TH to 2ND on the Agenda, seconded by
K. Gilyard.
Motion Carried. All votes were in the affirmative. There were no abstentions.
Motion was made by J. Mullen to move
Plumb Hill Playing Fields Update from 8TH to 3RD on the
Agenda, seconded by K. Gilyard.
Motion Carried. All votes were in the affirmative. There were no abstentions.
Communication
P & Z wanted to look at the
footprint of the project. V. Claman,
Chairman of P & Z gave the BC a copy of set backs from land use
office. Ruth Mulcahy will speak with
Architect and Construction Manager regarding regulations. R. Munday has already initiated contact with
P & Z and Ruth on a regular basis.
Plumb Hill Playing Fields Update
Ed Fabbri had the following updates:
1. Last meeting with SBC, SBA has
agreed to put permanent SVC into LIS, a conduit
will be put in with CL&P conduit;
2. Brian McCormick is behind in getting
a lease agreement finished to reviewed by the Town;
3. A Wood Chip Path needs to be added
so students walking up to the fields would be away from the building and not on
the road. We would like to extend the
sidewalk up to the fields. The Sidewalk
should be there for safety. There will
be a need to take trees down to add parking and sidewalk.
Approval of Minutes
It was agreed to table the approval
of minutes of the April 15, 2004 meeting due to lack of quorum.
Motion made by J. Zullo to approve
the minutes with corrections of the May 6, 2004 meeting, seconded by K. Gilyard. The corrections were as follows: Diane Knox last name was misspelled under
Public Participation; Under Bus Parking Planning and Zoning was referring to
Bantam Planning and Zoning.
Motion Carried. All votes were in the affirmative. There were no abstentions.
Bill
Dranginis liked the idea of Plan C-2 mixed with C-4. He asked if there can be a wall reserved in
the lobby near the gym for the Litchfield Booster Club Athletic Hall of Fame.
Leo Paul
was concerned with two entrances.
Dan Coelho
Wanted to know how the building meets the needs of the Ed Specs.
Kevin Creed
asked if the updated plan would change the reimbursement rate and also wanted
to see the facade of the parent drop off.
Copies of
Public School Communication to David Wedge were passed out to members.
M. Bramley
stated that because not all the key members are here tonight, he hoped that the
committee is receiving ideas, not making decisions. He also asked to hear about what went on
when four BC members went to Herbert S. Newman’s Office in New Haven.
Kent Gilyard,
Stacey Kavle, Lynn Chapman and Robert Blazek along with Greg Oneglia went. They looked at the four (C-1 – C-4)
updated/evolved versions of the original plan.
The Ed Specs reduced the number of square feet required for
building. We need the Architect to
explain the plans and how we are handling it with the Ed Specs.
Architect Update
Review Updated Plans C1 – C5
Updated
Plans and a comparative chart were passed out.
R. Blazek is concerned about what townspeople are going to think who
voted for the project. It takes time to
get used to new ideas, I found the four
plans interesting but still uncomfortable with two entrances at both schools; security,
traffic confusion, future location of Auditorium, setback lines with regard to
the Gym location and the cost. The cost
will go down, but so will the reimbursement rate.
R.
Munday – We did a lot of work in a short amount of time. It takes time to assimilate the aspects of a
problem and deal with it. Presentation
of New Plans:
1. Reviewed
Current LHS and LIS Plans;
2. Reviewed
original diagram of LHS and LIS that went to referendum;
3. Show
LHS in color, referendum scheme.
a. problems with this diagram,
redesigned it so it wasn’t necessary to build outside of cafeteria
b. pulled addition back so not as
much site work needed
c. task was to redesign the from of
school area
d. we received info from the Ed
Specs that is was necessary to build as much square footage.
e. Hub (current Lobby) is an efficient space and we wanted to try to get
there more quickly
and have all wings more readily accessible.
4. Diagram with walkway to front door to
central point. Also able to reduce
square footage to central point.
Existing lot and driveway to be left as they are and have a new side bus
drop off.
R.
Munday then did a comparison of four schemes using referendum B1 scheme as a
baseline.
Discussion:
M.
Bramley – Doesn’t perimeter feet increase, increase maintenance and operating
cost? R. Munday – The difference in
perimeter is minimal and does not affect cost.
It is important to break building down into recognizable units. Important that students have a sense that
building is manageable for them. T.
Callahan - We just met with mechanical/electrical engineers and their talking
about adding rooms for boilers, etc.
The Ed Specs were received on May 6TH and there was a
reduction in square footage, it went down three (3) classrooms, and a reduction
in the music and tech areas. We produced
an executive study we want to get it the Building Committee. J. Zullo – Evaluating all plans, it seems
redundant to have two entrances. The Gym
entrance will not be used regularly except when there are athletic events. How can we push the main entrance closer to
the Gym and utilize for games and public use?
I appreciate the middle connector and will come to appreciate the bus
entrance. All Building Committee members
thought that was worth looking at. T.
Breslin – That is not a bad set up now, you see everybody. In C2 I like that Seniors have a space to
hang out. As the Principal I like to see
as much going on as practical. And I
like people to see me there too. P
Perusse – One thing about having a Gym Lobby is that we can have fire doors
there to close off the rest of the building and also for people using the
cafeteria, we can close it off. T.
Breslin – Students go out of the school a lot, its good to have a good sized
separate entrance. The small courtyard
can be a senior gathering space. M.
Bramley – the 7-8 Science Labs; I like the second lobby near the science
labs. J. Zullo – it seems we are
driving square footage with hall space.
R. Munday – The cent link is where we are adding circulation space. J. Zullo – Is it worth doing a trade study on
whether the current tech wing to 9-12 science wing is guttable. Would it be a wash to tear down and
rebuild? B. Walpole – We are six
thousand square feet now, more than where we were in October 2003. We have the numbers if you want to talk about
them. R. Munday asked if the science
classroom had to be moved. T. Breslin –
The existing science classrooms are too small.
Discussion of the driveway will continue after the traffic study is
done. J. Zullo – I would like to direct
Richard to go back and evaluate with a single front entrance as another
alternative design. W. Shuhi – WE
haven’t talked about targeted renovation in parts of the building. I am unclear what that is going to end up
being.
Construction Manager’s Update
B.
Walpole – WE received the first four updates last week and after Monday’s
meeting C5 was generated. We went back
and reviewed the October 2003 conceptual estimate for LHS and LIS which totaled
$32M, Compared with B1 option of $33M.
The difference between any schemes C1 – C5 is less than ˝ M. For use to tweak the unit cost of estimate at
this level of detail we are in the ball park.
Again if we are spending money on site work we have to take it from the
building. Site cost in any “C” scheme
has gone up $125K. We have not done detailed analysis and
estimated on LIS. J. Zullo – Clearly the concrete sidewalk is an
alternate. B. Walpole – The bathrooms
for external use of new field means more money. J. Zullo - We are committed to that. Only the square footage is driving the bottom
line? B. Walpole – Until we get more
detail, we are comparing the same units.
We should try to get square footage down knowing we have these other
expenses. G. Oneglia spoke again about steel prices driving the price of all
metals up. The numbers are being looked
at now are historical numbers.
Electrical is 3%-5% more because of conduits. Our numbers could be on the low side. B. Walpole – We talked about escalation cost
and whether awe should bump it up, we didn’t in there estimates. R. Blazek – We can’t forget also we have in a
rising interest rate environment. R.
Munday - Finishes and materials are also differentials. We hope to be working with you and Construction
Manager on these decisions. B. Walpole –
My advice is to shoot under and have room to move. We have to pick a design soon or we are not
going to make the schematic schedule.
J. Zullo – Can you be back with C6 design with a single entrance next
week? R. Munday – As we move forward
with a final design we will still make change as we develop a better
understanding. We will be seeking to
move the square footage down. As we move
toward the end point we hope the building is as economical as it can be. M.
Bramley – In two weeks we want to pick something. Can we get C6in the next 7-8 days so we can
look at all concepts in 3-4 days?
LIS Update
Reviewed
updated plan for LIS
Discussion: T. Callahan – The new construction housing
the administration and becoming the new entrance, this is a preferred scheme of
the LIS Principal. For Town usage there
is no problem keeping the old entrance.
We have to keep construction in one spot with cost constraints. The administration feels it is easier to do
their job with office in the new library addition. With the new entrance the buildings are
looking at each other. R. Munday –
Site work is needed now, if it’s a construction zone it’s definitely going to
need it. It is unrealistic to expect
that we are not going to face a big bill for site work. M. Bramley – Are there more things we have
to do tonight? Tim Callahan - Kitchen
Consultants, Geo Tech Survey Work, Theater Consultant and Forensic Consultant
(he passed out copies of bids). We need
action on the Theater Consultant. The
Consultants in our fees are: M/E/P, Civil, Code and Structural. The Consultants that are add-ons are the ones
I stated above. B. Walpole – I would
suggest getting the Theater Consultant on board. Theater Consultant estimate for work is
$71K. R. Munday – We can engage him to
perform pre-schematic services to define the scope of the work and then get a
proposal for that work. G. Waugh – What
would that initial service cost? T.
Callahan - $5K.
Motion
was made by J. Zullo to table this until next meeting, seconded by B. Buckley.
Discussion:
G. Waugh – I think it’s a mistake. The
$4K to get work done is worth it. B.
Buckley – We only have one quote, $71K is a lot of money. To spend $K when it may be only $3K, this
budget is too tight. I’m concerned. G. Waugh – This is a result of a competitive
bid from a former project. J. Zullo – I
think in terms of saving time, talk to Jack Healy.
Call to
question. Roll call.
Buckley
– Yes
Blazek –
Yes
Waugh –
No
Kavle –
No
Bramley
– NO
Gilyard
– Abstain
Mullen –
No
Zullo –
No
Motion
Failed.
Motion
was made by K. Gilyard to Authorize the Chairman to enter into an appropriate
theater consultant contract at his discretion, seconded by G. Waugh.
Motion Carried. All votes were in the affirmative except B.
Buckley and R. Blazek who voted in the negative. There were no abstentions.
Motion was made by J. Zullo to
adjourn the meeting at 10:15PM, seconded by B. Buckley.
Motion Carried. All votes were in the affirmative. There were no abstentions.
Respectfully Submitted,
Kelli L. Green, Recorder