Litchfield Schools Building Committee

Meeting Minutes

 

 

LOCATION                                                                   Litchfield Intermediate School Cafeteria   

 

           

DATE OF MEETING                                                     November 1, 2007        

 

 

TIME MEETING STARTED                                           7:07 PM

 

 

PERSON PREPARING THE MINUTES                          Marianne Arancio Stilson

 

 

MEMBERS PRESENT

 

1.  Jeff Zullo, Treasurer & BOF Representative, Acting Chair      

2.  Bob Blazek

3.  William J. Buckley, Jr.          

4.  Lynn Chapman

5.  Mac Bramley                                                                           

6.  Gary Waugh - BOE Representative                        

7.  Kent Gilyard arrives at 7:10 PM

8.  Stacie Kavle, Vice Chair arrives at 8:42 PM

 

            

MEMBERS ABSENT

 

1.  Jack Healy, Chair & BOS Representative

2.  Leo Paul - Ex-Officio           

 

 

OTHERS PRESENT

George Graikoski of O&G, A. Brooks Fischer of Herbert S. Newman, Michael Chadukiewicz, Tony Crowe, Peg Perusse, Andrienne Longobucco, Winnie Harrison and Wayne Shuhi

 

 

QUORUM PRESENT                                                     Yes    

 

 

1.  CALL TO ORDER

 

Jeff Zullo, Acting Chair called the meeting to order at 7:07 PM.  

 

 

2.  APPROVAL OF MINUTES

 

Jeff Zullo, Acting Chair asks for a motion to approve the minutes of the October 18, 2007 meeting.

 

Motion:  Lynn Chapman moved to approve the meeting minutes of October 18, 2007

So moved.   Seconded:  William J. Buckley, Jr.

Discussion:  none

Vote: 

Abstention:  Mac Bramley

Deletions/Corrections/Additions:  None

Absent:  Jack Healy, Chair, Stacie Kavle, Vice Chair & Kent Gilyard

All Ayes

Motion passed.

 

 

3.  PUBLIC PARTICIPATION

None.

 

Kent Gilyard arrives at 7:10 PM

 

 

4.  COMMUNICATION

 

Report from Jeff Zullo on BOF Communication

Jeff Zullo, Acting Chair reports that there has been no BOF meeting since October 18th.

 

Report from Gary Waugh on BOE Communication

Gary Waugh reported to the BOE on the ceilings in the High School and other items that have been on their list for some time like the wire trays for the Intermediate School.  He stated that the BOE is interested and curious about the painting in the Intermediate School.  He also stated that Wayne Shuhi, the Chairman would like the Building Committee to let them know when they are at the point of working on the priority list because they want to be involved in those decisions.  Gary Waugh assured them that they would have input and that there are ongoing lists now and that there will be a committee that would begin to do biweekly items and look at things that need to be addressed both on the finish list and the wish list.

 

Report from Jack Healy on BOS Communication

No report.

 

Correspondence

Jeff Zullo, Acting Chair states that there was several emails from Betsey Glassman with regard to the project completion and the lack of completion of some of the site work in her opinion.  He states that the correspondence will be filed as noted and the Building Committee can review this at a later date.

 

 

Mike Chadukiewicz asks if the agenda item for Technology can be taken out of order since he needs to leave for another meeting. 

 

Motion:  William J. Buckley, Jr. moved to hear agenda item 7.  TECHNOLOGY UPDATE – TAKE ACTIONS AS NEEDED before agenda item 5.  ARCHITECT/CONSTRUCTION MANAGER UPDATES.

So moved.   Seconded:  Gary Waugh

Discussion:  none

Vote: 

Abstention:  none

Absent:  Jack Healy, Chair & Stacie Kavle, Vice Chair

All Ayes

Motion passed.

 

 

7.  TECHNOLOGY UPDATE – TAKE ACTIONS AS NEEDED

Jeff Zullo, Acting Chair states that the reason Mr. Chadukiewicz is here tonight is that at the last meeting, the Building Committee asked for a status update on Technology so that the Committee can understand where they are with Technology and the expenses and the budget.  Mike Chadukiewicz hands out LMS/LHS Technology Orders and LIS Technology Orders reports to the members of the Committee and states that everything was purchased a week or so after the Committee approved the Technology budget.  He goes over the Middle/High School reports.  He states that Advance Office System orders are ninety-five percent complete on the loose equipment.  They are backordered on a work bench, tripod, media converter and four cameras.  He feels that all the work for Advanced Office System should be complete within two weeks and states that there are invoices that need to be approved for them this evening.  William J. Buckley, Jr. states that there is $3,669.00 left over.  Mike Chadukiewicz states that that is correct because they did not order a laptop and a laptop cart.  William J. Buckley, Jr. states that this money can be transferred into contingency tonight.  Lengthy discussion ensued on the issue of ordering laptops.  Mike Chadukiewicz states that there are several change orders that were sent to the Chairman and they are as follows:  to add two direct jet network cards to the printers for $678; on the loose equipment the bidder/contractor had quoted the wrong model numbers and made a mistake for Texas Instruments and for two digital cameras for $8,458.00.  William J. Buckley, Jr., is concerned because they quoted the wrong price on the bid.  Mike Chadukiewicz states that he is not a lawyer but if someone makes a legitimate mistake you can’t be unjustly enriched because of the mistake.  Mac Bramley feels that this is a bait and switch situation.  Bob Blazek is very concerned about this bidding error.  William J. Buckley, Jr. is concerned that Mike Chadukiewicz did not bring the report with him this evening for the members of the Committee and feels that this discussion should be tabled until the members of the Committee have the report.  Mike Chadukiewicz states that he sent it to the Chairman a month ago.  A heated debate ensued between Mike Chadukiewicz and William J. Buckley, Jr.   This change order is discussed in detail by the members of the Committee.  Jeff Zullo, Acting Chair wants to know if the amount of the expenditure that the Committee approved was exceeded by this change. Mike Chadukiewicz states that it wouldn’t be because of the $4,000.00 change order from Dell and because the laptops weren’t ordered.  Bob Blazek states that the Committee voted on specific line items that were bid.  Jeff Zullo, Acting Chair states that the Committee approved line by line of a bid and Mike Chadukiewicz can not go out and issue a purchase order for something that the Committee has not approved for more money.  Mac Bramley states that he remembers being given a sheet with the bidders and remembers it being analyzed group by group. He states that the Committee can’t consider the Dell saving against this situation until the Committee is satisfied with what the total was of the group bidder to the advanced and what the difference is in the advanced price versus the secondary price and would that have been upset by an increase of $8,000 in the advanced bid.  Mike Chadukiewicz states that there was no competition on these items and that no one else bid on these line items.  William J. Buckley, Jr. wants to know what the value of the change of the $954.00 is.  Mike Chadukiewicz states that he does not have the report and can’t answer the question.  William J. Buckley, Jr. states that the bid went from $900 to $3,000 because of the mistake on the cameras.  Mac Bramley states that if you make a mistake then you should eat it.    William J. Buckley, Jr. states that if you bid something and then you issue a change order when the bid is $900 you can’t make a change order that equals $3,000.  He states that you may be able to make a change order that equals ten percent because you bypass the bid process.   Further discussion of the camera pricing continued.  Mike Chadukiewicz states that their documents were correct but that their bid department made a mistake.  Jeff Zullo, Acting Chair rereads the motion made last month about technology and wants to know if this report handed out tonight is acceptable to the Committee.  William J. Buckley, Jr. states that this report is not correct because of the change orders.  Mike Chadukiewicz states that these change orders are pending and have not been approved.   William J. Buckley, Jr. states that since they are not approved change orders then the Committee doesn’t have to approve them.  Lynn Chapman wants to know about the bid on the Texas Instrument Calculators.  Mike Chadukiewicz does not have the information with him but will forward an email tomorrow to all the members of the Committee and states that from now on he will copy all the members when he emails the Chairman.  He states that he feels that it doubled but will forward the email tonight.  Further discussion ensued.  Mac Bramley wants to know why the difference in the camera price was not caught in the bidding process by either the firm or by Mike Chadukiewicz.  He wants to know why this low price did not raise a red flag and feels that that was their price and that it was not a mistake.  Mike Chadukiewicz disagrees.  Bob Blazek feels that you can bid low to get a contract and then you can come back and raise the price.  Mike Chadukiewicz does not agree.  Mike Chadukiewicz continues with the discussion of the rest of the report.  The discussion of why laptops were not ordered ensued.  Gary Waugh feels that the laptops are a necessity and are used every period, everyday by the students and states that they are educationally viable and heavily utilized.  A discussion of the need for laptops ensued as well as a discussion of protection software of the laptops from viruses and wireless compatibility.  Andrienne Longobucco states that they do have good virus protection software but it will not protect everything.  Gary Waugh states that there is very little work now that is done by hand and that all the work turned in is by computers and feels that this is money well spent.  Andrienne Longobucco states that the laptops were cut out because they prioritized technology.  She also states that they would definitely be used if they were ordered.  Mike Chadukiewicz states that the quotes are typically good for a year but that he has to check the documents.  He states that typically they put a year in the documents but that he has to check.  William J. Buckley, Jr. wants to know what the students are using now.  Adrianne Longobucco states that they are using all the desktops in the school.  She states that there about two hundred plus computers in the school for six hundred students.  Jeff Zullo, Acting Chair reminds the Committee that you don’t want to bond equipment for twenty years that will be obsolete in three years.  He feels that this is a wish list item and needs to be evaluated with all the other items that may be on the wish list at the end if there are funds available.  Mike Chadukiewicz continues discussing the report.  He states that ShopBot came in today.  A discussion of the USB extenders ensued and Mike Chadukiewicz states that they are going with wireless extenders.   Jeff Zullo, Acting Chair asks if the Committee would like to move any funds now.

 

Motion:   William J. Buckley, Jr.  moved that the Committee move the sum of the four balances totaling $62,519.00 into Contingency and out of Technology.

So moved.  Seconded:  Bob Blazek

Discussion:   Lynn Chapman states that Mike Chadukiewicz stated that they may need to have access to the $5,600.00 since they are installing the system and need the USB extenders.

William J. Buckley, Jr. restates the motion.

Restated Motion:   William J. Buckley, Jr. moved the sum of the first two items, $3,669 and $52,930.41 for a total of $56,599.41 out of Technology and into Contingency on the High School budget.

So moved.  Seconded:  Bob Blazek

Discussion:  Gary is very reluctant to do this.  He feels that the Committee is changing a plan that they approved a few months ago.  Mac Bramley states that he agrees with Gary Waugh because this will compete again with something else and that the monies and products are needed.  He feels that the Committee has the right to turn down or hold the purchase of any piece of equipment that was on the motion that they made and that the money should be left in Technology.  Bob Blazek wants to know if this is the same as moving of other monies into Contingency.  Jeff Zullo, Acting Chair states that it is.  He states that the rationale of the Committee over the last month was to get the clarity and visibility on the budgets since they are closing the construction side of it out and that they have FFE and Technology left and any of the additional work that they have outlined to complete.  This will put the monies in an area where the Committee can see it.  William J. Buckley, Jr. states that he believes the intent of the Superintendent is to also be involved in the wish list.  He states that there was an email this week that recommends that the Committee start to get prices on these items from the administration.  He agrees not to bond technology. 

Vote:

Absent: Jack Healy, Chair & Stacie Kavle, Vice Chair

Objection:  Gary Waugh & Mac Bramley

Ayes:  William J. Buckley, Jr., Kent Gilyard,  Lynn Chapman and Bob Blazek

Motion passed.

 

Mike Chadukiewicz goes over the report for the Litchfield Intermediate School.

 

Motion:   William J. Buckley, Jr.  moved that the Committee move the sum of the first two items, $1,223 and $17,642.72 out of LIS Technology and into the Contingency line item.

So moved.  Seconded:  Bob Blazek

Discussion:   Gary Waugh states that he does not see how this adds clarity and that it just put clarity into a different column.  He states that clarity is transparent and that it’s in the budget and shows up in a line item.  He worries that it might be more accessible in a different column. Bob Blazek states that this is the same thing that the Committee has been doing with other items.  Gary Waugh states that it’s clear because he work in this field and that the laptops are used intensively everyday and feels that it is a legitimate question to fund it over twenty years but if you don’t the students won’t have it.

Vote:

Absent: Jack Healy, Chair & Stacie Kavle, Vice Chair

Objection:  Gary Waugh & Mac Bramley

Ayes:  William J. Buckley, Jr., Kent Gilyard,  Lynn Chapman and Bob Blazek

Motion passed.

 

Gary Waugh wants to know when the final installation will be done.  Mike Chadukiewicz states that it will be done by Christmas. 

 

Mike Chadukiewicz leaves.

 

Jeff Zullo, Acting Chair states that the Committee is carrying in current budget $467,00.00 in LHS and $289,600.00 in LIS for a total of $756,600.00 and total committed by the Committee is $696,550.78.  He states that the Committee will have to transfer funds from the Intermediate School side to the Middle/High School side.  He states at the Middle/High School there is $551,870 against a budget of $467,000 so the Committee will have to transfer money from the Intermediate School.  He states that at the Intermediate School there is $289,600 and committed of $144,680.00 for a balance of $148,920.00. He feels that the money from the Intermediate School could be moved to contingency immediately.

 

Motion:   Kent Gilyard moved to take $60,000.00 out of the Intermediate School Technology budget and into the Intermediate School Contingency.

So moved.  Seconded:  Bob Blazek

Discussion:  William J. Buckley, Jr. feels that the motion should be restated.

Kent Gilyard restates the motion.

Restated Motion:   Kent Gilyard moved to take $148,900.00 from the Intermediate School Technology to Owners Contingency.

So moved.  Seconded:  Bob Blazek

Discussion:  William J. Buckley, Jr. states that George Graikoski didn’t know what the amount was for Technology and states that the whole purpose for the report tonight on Technology was to get the budget item correct.  Discussion ensued on the motion.

Vote:

Absent: Jack Healy, Chair & Stacie Kavle, Vice Chair

Objection:  None

All ayes

Motion passed.

 

William J. Buckley, Jr. feels that the Committee should wait to transfer money to the Middle/High School until next meeting.

 

Andrienne Longobucco leaves.

 

 

5.  ARCHITECT/CONSTRUCTION MANAGER UPDATES

 

Budget (O&G)

George Graikoski of O&G hands out to the members of the Committee the following reports:  

O&G Litchfield High School/Middle School and Litchfield Intermediate School Summary Data Report #13 October, 2007; Litchfield Middle/High School Construction Manager’s Monthly Cost Control Report; Litchfield Middle/High School Construction Manager’s Monthly Cost Control Report Adjustment No.1; Litchfield Middle/High School Construction Manager’s Monthly Cost Control Report Adjustment No.2 and Litchfield Intermediate School Construction Manager’s Monthly Cost Control Report.

 

George Graikoski goes over the reports for the Middle/High School with the members of the Committee.  

 

 

 

Motion:   William J. Buckley, Jr. moved to take $9,933 out of line item 121 Architect’s Specialized Consultant Soft Cost and $8,337 out of line item 122 Architect’s Additional Services and move it to line item 315 Asbestos Abatement that has a parenthetical of ($18,270).

So moved.  Seconded:  Bob Blazek

Discussion:  none.

Vote:

Absent: Jack Healy, Chair & Stacie Kavle, Vice Chair

Objection:  None

All ayes

Motion passed.

 

William J. Buckley, Jr. would like to know what is needed in Technology.  Jeff Zullo, Acting Chair states that the amount is a negative delta of $84,870 in the Middle/High School.

 

 

Motion:  William J. Buckley, Jr. moved to take $20,500 out of bonding costs and $51,250 out of Interim Financing and move that into the Technology line item 220 for the Middle/High School.

So moved.  Seconded:  Bob Blazek

Discussion:  William J. Buckley, Jr. states that that will give them $71,750.  Further calculation of the amount needed ensued.

Motion is retracted and seconded is retracted.

Motion:  William J. Buckley, Jr. moved to take $28,271 out of Interim Financing and move that into the Technology line item 220 for the Middle/High School.

So moved.  Seconded:  Bob Blazek

Discussion:  none.

Vote:

Absent: Jack Healy, Chair & Stacie Kavle, Vice Chair

Objection:  None

All ayes

Motion passed.

 

 

Motion:  William J. Buckley, Jr.  moved to take $22,979 out of the Interim Funds line item 260 and take $20,500 out of Bonding Cost line item 250 and move it into Owner’s Contingency line item 290 for the Middle/High School.

So moved.  Seconded:  Bob Blazek

Discussion:  Discussion of making sure that none of the funds available are negative numbers ensued.  Discussion of the bonding costs ensued.

Vote:

Absent: Jack Healy, Chair & Stacie Kavle, Vice Chair

Objection:  None

All ayes

Motion passed.

 

Jeff Zullo, Acting Chair states that the Middle/High School has approximately $43,000 in remaining funds.

 

George Graikoski goes over the reports for the Intermediate School and states that there are no changes except for the bonding.  Discussion of removing line item 101 Library Casework adjustment from the report ensued.   It is decided by the members of the Committee to take that line item out of the next report.  Lengthy discussion ensued on the software program and the line item.  Discussion of the work by GarSan ensued for the Intermediate School and not the Middle/High School as is reflected in the report.

 

Motion:  Bob Blazek moved to revise line item 101 to read General Trades Supplemental GarSan and establish an initial budget of zero and a budget revision of $37,775 and deduct that amount from Owner’s Contingency for the Intermediate School.

So moved.  Seconded:  William J. Buckley, Jr.

Discussion:  Jeff Zullo, Acting Chair states that George Graikoski will be revising the name, fill in the zeros with the revisions and take the $37,775 out of the $217,337 and then line item 920 will go up.

Vote:

Absent: Jack Healy, Chair & Stacie Kavle, Vice Chair

Objection:  None

All ayes

Motion passed.

 

 

Motion:  William J. Buckley, Jr. moved to take line item 101, Intermediate Casework Adjustment and all the parenthetical are going to be removed from the General Trades 100 line item and the line item number 101 is deleted.

 So moved.  Seconded:  Bob Blazek

Discussion:  none.

Vote:

Absent: Jack Healy, Chair & Stacie Kavle, Vice Chair

Objection:  None

All ayes

Motion passed.

 

Stacie Kavle, Vice Chair arrives at 8:42 PM.

 

Gary Waugh wants to know if there is a working number for Contingency that accounts for the budgeted number of the FFE.  Jeff Zullo, Acting Chair states that there is about $420,000. at Intermediate School at about $45,000.00 at the Middle/High School.

 

 

Schedule Update (O&G)

George Graikoski states that in media center and the gym vestibule he is waiting for the letter of substantial compliance from Peter Bowman of Newman. He states that he is hoping to get it tomorrow.  He states that they are working on the punch list items now in the Intermediate School.  At the  Middle/High School the kitchen equipment has arrived and is being hooked up now. They were missing some strainers and still missing some faucets so the kitchen will be finished in about two weeks.  George Graikoski states that the Balancers have been out to do the cafeteria in the Intermediate School, the band room and other areas.  George Graikoski states that the odds and ends on the outside are being worked on.  A. Brooks Fischer states that first thing tomorrow they will get comments on the mock-up and that there are some items that another mock-up will not be needed.  Gary Waugh wants to know if there were any more leaks with Saturday’s heavy rain.  George Graikoski states that there was a leak in the administrative wing and the roofer was here this week and located the leak and corrected it.  He does not know of any other leaks.  Jeff Zullo, Acting Chair states that he was there today and there was a high pitch squeal and George Graikoski notified Titan Mechanical.  George Graikoski states that the Vice President and Project Manager came out today and they had discussions about that.  They will go through each and every unit ventilator and get them under control.  They said that there was about half a dozen that the computer boards were failing and the board needed to be replaced and failed again.  They are working with the manufacturer to look into this.  He believes that this will all be under control by next week and a memo was sent to Tony Crowe to let the staff know that the ventilators should not be turned off.  George Graikoski states that when the fans are on high it can be loud so they were all turned to low.  He states that when the CO sensors kick on there is cooler air that circulates.  He claims that it will be a few weeks to get them all fixed.   William J. Buckley, Jr. notes the plywood stain from a leak when you walk by the gym on the left.  George Graikoski states that that will be repainted.   Also, he would like to know about the standard of the code for noise level for classrooms.  He wanted to know if Brooks can find out what the standard was before the 2005 code.   He would like the ANSI standard.   He would like to know if the classrooms are meeting the standard to which they were designed.  He doesn’t want to pay extra to put sound proofing up if they don’t meet what they were designed to.  Discussion ensued.

Bob Blazek wants to know why Titan put these ventilators in if they are noisy.  George Graikoski states that the noise coming out now is the fan.  Discussion of the sensor and the temperature in the room ensued.  Jeff Zullo, Acting Chair would like to know if they are on schedule with the contract agreements and if there will be any overages costs.  George Graikoski states that the contracts are not up until the end of November.  William J. Buckley, Jr. wants to know how Allied will be done by the end of November.  George Graikoski states that they will not be done by November.  A. Brooks Fischer states that the siding issue will be resolved tomorrow.  A. Brooks Fischer states that the mockup covers 75% and then they will do a mockup by the windows.  Jeff Zullo, Acting Chair notes that in some of the emails that he read this week that there was some disconnect and delays in getting someone from Newman here to review a mockup.  Jeff Zullo, Acting Chair states that this can not happen.  There should not be any delays at this point.  William J. Buckley, Jr. would like to see George Graikoski send an email to all the Building Committee members and to Newman two days before they get to the window for the mockup to be looked at right away.  He feels that from now on emails should be sent out two days before the completion of a section.  William J. Buckley, Jr. states that he is tired of looking at the siding this way and tired of hearing about it from the public at the post office every week.  Further discussion ensued.  A. Brooks Fischer states that the only other mockup that they need to see is for the window trim.  Jeff Zullo, Acting Chair states that the keeping on schedule is critical now.  He states that he, William J. Buckley, Jr. and Stacie Kavle toured with O&G today and they will  fix some of the roofing, applying some additional mastic and just to clean up some odds and ends in terms of visibility and look.

 

 

Intermediate School Media Center & Cafeteria Completion (O&G)

None discussed.

 

 

Entrance to 7th & 8th Wing updates (O&G and HSN)

This work is done.

 

Mac Bramley wants to know what the schedule is for the lowering of the desks and the duration.  George Graikoski states that they are coming up this week and will take a few weeks to completion.

 

George Graikoski states that he still does not have the breakdown of the classrooms and the stair wells.  He did see the painter and forgot to ask for the breakdown but will call him tomorrow.  Gary Waugh feels that the stairwells are equally critical and that they should be improved.  Gary Waugh feels that they are a third of the school year done and it affects learning everyday.  He states that the ceilings need to be painted during nights and weekends and over Thanksgiving but that it needs to be done.  William J. Buckley, Jr. wants to know where the money for this is coming from.  Jeff Zullo, Acting Chair states that it will have to come out of Contingency.  He states that it was $28,000. for both the classrooms and the stairwells.  They are still waiting for a breakdown.  William J. Buckley, Jr. will not vote to take any money out of contingency until he sees a list of the items that need to be done with their cost and it is decided what to spend the money on.  Jeff Zullo, Acting Chair feels that the Committee needs to get a prioritized list with amounts in order to take out of contingency.  Gary Waugh disagrees.  He feels that it’s a lighting issue that the Committee has known about for months and that it is irresponsible if the Committee does not act on this.  Mac Bramley agrees with Gary Waugh and feels that although he thinks that the cost is high that this is work that has to be done.  Discussion ensued.  Kent Gilyard thought that this would have been done by now and that this does effect the visibly impaired.  Lynn Chapman agrees.  He also agrees that only the classrooms should be done at this time.  Stacie Kavle wants George Graikoski to call the painter tomorrow and then call Jack Healy, Chair or her about the price so they can move forward.

 

 

Motion:  Gary Waugh moved to approve the painting of the ceilings in the Intermediate School classrooms for reflection purposes not to exceed the cost of $14,000.00 to come out of Contingency line item 0920 in the Intermediate School budget.

So moved.  Seconded:  Kent Gilyard

Discussion:  Gary Waugh hopes the cost will be less. 

Vote:

Absent: Jack Healy, Chair & Stacie Kavle, Vice Chair

Objection:  None

All ayes

Motion passed.

 

 

Wall Panel Update (O&G and HSN)

Jeff Zullo, Acting Chair states that they had discussions today with O&G about the coping.  George Graikoski states that after the meeting he felt it was going to be left the way it is.  William J. Buckley, Jr. inquires about the siding that was taken down by the gym.  George Graikoski states that he is waiting for Allied to put it up.  Stacie Kavle states that the way that the siding material was installed is not in agreement with the way the building was designed and it has to do with the coping and fascia on parts of the building and that there is some confusion as to why it was built the way it was built.  She states that there is some disagreement about why it was done the way it was done and who is responsible for it.  She is not sure how they can pursue how to correct it.  Jeff Zullo, Vice Chair states that there is some disagreement about if it was approved or not by the site architect.  Stacie Kavle states that there was no written documentation by O&G as to what was approved.  She feels that it is unfortunate that they don’t have the building that was designed.  She would like to see if they can talk to the contractor to see if some changes can be made in some critical areas.  Jeff Zullo, Vice Chair states that the drawing called for four inch coping and that there is twelve inch coping there now.  William J. Buckley, Jr. states that he doesn’t see this changing and that they can’t get that contractor out to the site to do the work he is supposed to be doing.  He is also sad that they can’t get all the people in the room who were there when things were said to discuss this.  He was concerned with the quality of the work on the siding and around the building and he believe that he has some assurances that that will be taken care of.  He feels that if he saw the two choices, he doesn’t know if he would like one design more than another and that any change will require a change order or litigation.  Bob Blazek wants to know if there is a performance issue with the design.  Stacie Kavle states that it is more of an aesthetic issue.  Jeff Zullo, Acting Chair points out that what was discussed today was that O&G’s position is that the site architect approved it and if there was a disagreement with that approval there was a de facto approval by the continuation of the installation week in and week out with the architect there over a period of several months.  They feel that if there was a disagreement as to what was approved then it should have been recognized by the architect and brought to question.  Gary Waugh wants to know what the position was of the poorly cut electrical outlets that are sub quality work.  William J. Buckley, Jr. states that they said they are not done.  Lengthy discussion ensued.  Stacie Kavle can take any of the members to see the coping and discuss this.  William J. Buckley, Jr. wants to know what the contractor has been told on this issue.  George Graikoski states that the contractor has been told that it is unacceptable and to correct it to the four inch on the whole building.  He states that the contractor did write a letter and stated his position as to why it is what it is.  He states that they have been trying to get a meeting together but they have not been able to.  Stacie Kavle wants to know if the contractor will do some changes at no cost to the Committee.  George Graikoski thinks that they probably would do some changes.  Jeff Zullo, Acting Chair feels that there should be a meeting with Jack Healy, Chair, Newman, O&G and the contractor.  William J. Buckley, Jr. is concerned that the contractor is not showing up to do the work because this issue is not resolved. He feels that this issue needs to be resolved very soon and before the next meeting.