MINUTES
LITCHFIELD SCHOOL BUILDING COMMITTEE
LITCHFIELD
INTERMEDIATE SCHOOL LIBRARY
DECEMBER 4, 2003
A meeting of the Litchfield School Building Committee was held on
Thursday, December 4, 2003, at 7:00 p.m.
in the Litchfield Intermediate School Library.
Present were: J. Healy, Chairman; S. Kavle, G. Waugh, L. Chapman, J.
Mullen, B. Buckley, K. Gilyard, R. Blazek.
Also Present: Diane Knox,
BOE Chairman; BOE Members: Wayne Shuhi, Frank Simone, and Leo Paul, First Selectman,
Tim Breslin, LHS Principal, Public and the Press.
Meeting was called to order
at 7:02 PM by J. Healy
Motion made by R. Blazek to
approve the minutes as corrected of the November 25, 2003 meeting sec. by B.
Buckley
Motion Carried. All votes were in the affirmative. There were no abstentions.
Public Participation
Bob Blazek, liaison to the
BOS had the following ideas which he brought to Committee from BOS:
1. Bill Dranginis wondered if Committee
could develop a parallel set of prices with not just the $33M gross cost by
also as net amount;
2. Kevin Creed asked when the exact date
of the referendum may be and whether there will be a gape of time between
completed presentation and referendum when committee can have meetings in
different parts of town regarding the project.
Also, to what degree can BOS come out for or against the project?
3. Dan Coelho asked if the allocation of
monies within the schools for the Targeted Renovation can be upgraded to
Renovation as New.
Discussion: The
Building Committee is trying to get Renovation as New status at LIS with
the money that we have. How do we get the most for our money? Architect will go over
that in the coming weeks. Many of the decisions that are made will
influence how much
money you get from the State. A new Auditorium at LHS will decrease the
rate of
reimbursement. We are sticking with the $33M, that was our
charge, but we will maximize
our reimbursement, while trying to meet a
program at the same time.
Stacey Kavle spoke with the
Firs Selectman who asked about providing a press release that deals with hiring
Architect and Construction Manager.
Regarding presenting
project to the Town, Committee wants to target various groups like fire dept.
and other organizations in Town. Work
with getting something on Channel 5.
It’s a good thing for Committee to keep in mind and if you think of a
group to target - invite them.
Regarding gross v. net
$33M, the committee is staying with a gross cost of $33M. The line has been drawn. We will not know the final reimbursement
until the end. What is the end? After spending $33M. You’ll have to figure you’ll have bids come in
that your award will be based on their estimates. Project will be audited at the completion.
Have we allocated any money
for the improvement of the athletic fields? We are not going to spend money on fields.
Mike Murray - If we don’t
have PR by the committee, perceptions will be generated by word of mouth which
can lead to misinformation. The
Architect that was selected, what will they be paid? An Article in the paper said the Committee
hired an Architect and their fee is $1.8M, but can be negotiated. Is that a fair representation? If the referendum passes are you committed t
that Architect?
Committee - Architect is
contingent upon successful negotiation of the contract and fees will be
determined then. If the referendum
passes we will keep the same Architect.
Murray - What is the SF of
the project? How many Architect hours
are involved in this project? $1.8 M
seems like a huge fee for this project.
Committee - It’s
approximately 7% of construction costs which is lower than the whole State.
Diane Knox, Chairman of the
BOE - had a curriculum committee meeting. A major concern is for safety. Safety
is a key and critical issue for this project.
We will work with you and get the most we can for this project, want to
make sure safety is a priority for this committee.
Mike Murray - To spend
$200.00 to $300.00 dollars an hour seems like a lot.
Committee - We are going to
negotiate with them, we have not yet.
The project is larger that you think it is. We understand your concerns and we want to be
aware of the sensitivities of the public,
G. Waugh - I spent the
afternoon with Turner and learned that safety is number one concern with CM. No one on the committee will jeopardize
safety. It will not be compromised.
Communication
Letter from State Board of
Education was passed out regarding ED 049R.
Responses to letter from Mac Bramley and Jeff Zullo were read by Chair
to committee. The town has authorized
the Committee to spend $50,000.00 to develop conceptual plans to bring to
referendum. To not do that, we would
actually delay the project. We are
already in the queue and we will proceed.
The chances of getting an approval are very high according to State
Reps. We need to have State BOE work
with Reps to get a decision before the referendum. A project put before the State has never been
turned down.
Letter from Alan Landau was
read as attached hereto as Exhibit A.
P. Sapiro arrived at 7:45PM
Jack met with First
Selectman who put him in contact with someone who will look for grants. His name is Larry Wagner and Leo Paul stated
that he will also help in any way.
Financial Update - meeting was cancelled for tonight.
Payment of Bills
Received an Invoice for
$1,000.00 from Herbert S. Newman and Partners which said it was their final
bill for ED 049R submission for professional services rendered as per
agreement.
All invoices and bills are
approved by Jack and he submits to Town.
Leo Paul, First Selectman would like to keep this process the same.
Motion was made by B.
Buckley to approve invoice from Newman of $1,000.00 consistent with contract,
sec. by R. Blazek.
Motion Carried. All votes were in the affirmative. There were no abstentions.
Discussion about Architect Submission
J. Healy and S. Kavle have
not had a chance to look at them, once they do will set up a meeting with
Richard Munday to begin negotiations and will draw on the experience of B.
Buckley and J. Zullo. B. Buckley
advised that they do not concentrate on two items: dollar amount and time. Need to have a discussion with both Architect
and CM before we negotiate these two items.
J. Healy commented that Leo
Paul was approached by J. Noel who volunteered his time as legal aide to assist
with contract verbiage. If he volunteers
his time, who is liable for his work.
Town Attorney, Mike Rybak and J. Noel would be liable for his actions. K. Gilyard reminded committee that we are
asking people to volunteer and he is trying to help us get the contracts
done. Ultimately the Town Attorney
will have to review it. We have to use
common sense. His word is not the final
word. J. Noel is corporate counsel for
ESPN. He is offering his services as a
Town Resident. He is willing to do
whatever we ask of him. In the past did
we use the Town Attorney or the BOE Attorney?
Both and would should make sure that both attorneys are under contract
with us when we are ready to have a contract looked at.
Review
Construction Managers Proposals and take action deemed necessary
All the proposals came in
on Monday and were on time. We should
take time, review these and come back at another time. Everybody that doesn’t see these things on a
daily basis needs to go through them with some expertise guiding them. We need to understand what we are looking
at. B. Buckley has agreed to do a 10-15
minute presentation:
1. Bid
Package Summary;
2. What
contracts with bidders will look like;
3. What
a full set of plans would look like.
Construction Manager - two
components
1. Fixed fee percentage (O& G was
proposing 2%);
2. Duration of Construction
Konover has a 12-month
design period and 18-month construction period - this may be too tight. When looking at proposals try to look for
the durations.
Victor Cansetta of Turner
Construction called and said if anyone has questions regarding proposal, call
him.
Let Jack and Stacey want to
know if you have any questions so we can get into to CM and back to everybody.
Motion by R. Blazek to
table discussion and any action deemed necessary to Thursday, December 11,
2003, sec. by L. Chapman.
Discussion:
G. Waugh - Look at fee
structure for O&G, who list specific lump sums. Do we understand that they will not exceed
these numbers? Are those the maximum
numbers?
B. Buckley - That is in the
narrative section. To answer that
questions look at pages 11 and 12 of the next section and page 11 of
Konover’s. You’ll see lump sum. Additional service start after 24 months
after construction phase starts. You’ll
see hourly rates in section 4. O & G
gave a lump sum fee for this job during the contract term.
Konover gives a fixed fee
for pre-referendum and pre-construction.
Fees are based on construction costs no less than $27M and 24 month construction
durations. They give estimated fees.
On Turner’s proposal the
blanks are not filled in. We need to
take time to look at that. Which is
better for us? B. Buckley personally likes
a fixed term and likes to know what we are going to pay. He likes O & G’s lump sum fee.
Can Jack and bull provide
the committee with all salient points of this contract on a chart for next
meeting? Need tables that compare all
three companies along with the time of durations. We can do that for December 11TH
meeting.
If Turner’s numbers come
out lower, does size of the company determine how long it takes to do
project? Jack’s experience has been that
this is not the case. Size of the
CM has less to do with the duration of contracts. It is the contractors themselves.
The experience of the
Project manager does matter. The
chemistry between the Project Manager and the Administrators is important.
Compare Konover and O&G
reimbursables for construction phase.
Motion Carried. All votes were in the affirmative except Paul
Sapiro who voted in the negative. There
were no abstentions.
Additional Business - None
Motion was made by B.
Buckley to adjourn the meeting at 8:50 PM, sec. by S. Kavle.
Motion Carried. All votes were in the affirmative. There were no abstentions.
Respectfully submitted,
Kelli L. Green, Recording
Secretary